Good afternoon,
In the host/ip exemptions is a verbose entry acceptable ie: vert.synchro.net? I have 71.95.196.34 set to exempt. I was just curios? Do both work? Verbose and numerical?
Digital Man wrote to Rixter <=-
Re: host/ip settings
By: Rixter to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 03:14 pm
Good afternoon,
In the host/ip exemptions is a verbose entry acceptable ie: vert.synchro.net? I have 71.95.196.34 set to exempt. I was just curios? Do both work? Verbose and numerical?
I'm not sure what exemptions you're referring to. "Exemptions" sounds
like a white-list and not sure what file/list you mean that matches
that description.
For the ip.can filter file, only IP addresses/ranges can be specified.
For the host.can filter file, only hostnames are expected. https://wiki.synchro.net/config:filter_files
For the ip.can filter file, only IP addresses/ranges can be specified. For the host.can filter file, only hostnames are expected. https://wiki.synchro.net/config:filter_files
My guess on what the poorly-worded / incomplete / vague question is
asking about is: ../ctrl/ipfilter_exempt.cfg
Seems fairly obvious to me that it's for IP addresses, not hostnames...
Re: host/ip settingsThank you. That answered my question.
By: Rixter to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 03:14 pm
Good afternoon,
In the host/ip exemptions is a verbose entry acceptable ie: vert.synchro.net? I have 71.95.196.34 set to exempt. I was just curios? D both work? Verbose and numerical?
I'm not sure what exemptions you're referring to. "Exemptions" sounds like a white-list and not sure what file/list you mean that matches that descriptio
For the ip.can filter file, only IP addresses/ranges can be specified. For t host.can filter file, only hostnames are expected. https://wiki.synchro.net/config:filter_files
Digital Man wrote to Rixter <=-
Re: host/ip settings
By: Rixter to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 03:14 pm
Good afternoon,
In the host/ip exemptions is a verbose entry acceptable ie: vert.synchro.net? I have 71.95.196.34 set to exempt. I was just curios? D both work? Verbose and numerical?
I'm not sure what exemptions you're referring to. "Exemptions" sounds like a white-list and not sure what file/list you mean that matches that description.
For the ip.can filter file, only IP addresses/ranges can be specified. For the host.can filter file, only hostnames are expected. https://wiki.synchro.net/config:filter_files
My guess on what the poorly-worded / incomplete / vague question is
asking about is: ../ctrl/ipfilter_exempt.cfg
Seems fairly obvious to me that it's for IP addresses, not hostnames...
... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.Thanks, I appreciate you guys helping me out. Have a great weekend buddy. Get well soon.
Digital Man wrote to Rixter <=-
Re: host/ip settings
By: Rixter to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 03:14 pm
Good afternoon,
In the host/ip exemptions is a verbose entry acceptable ie: vert.synchro.net? I have 71.95.196.34 set to exempt. I was just curios? D both work? Verbose and numerical?
I'm not sure what exemptions you're referring to. "Exemptions" sounds like a white-list and not sure what file/list you mean that matches that description.
For the ip.can filter file, only IP addresses/ranges can be specified. For the host.can filter file, only hostnames are expected. https://wiki.synchro.net/config:filter_files
My guess on what the poorly-worded / incomplete / vague question is
asking about is: ../ctrl/ipfilter_exempt.cfg
Seems fairly obvious to me that it's for IP addresses, not hostnames...
... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.Thanks, I appreciate you guys helping me out. Have a great weekend buddy. Get well soon.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ The FidoNet News Gate (Huntsville, AL - USA) +
+ The views of this user are strictly his or her own. + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Could this possibly be something Rixter is doing? It seems only his posts (at least recently) are going through this news gate and coming back into the network as some sort of modified dupe.
I don't know what's triggering it, but I've seen the dupes from other authors too (no, I'm not filtering anything... yet).
I'm wondering if some are connecting to Dovenet via QWK as well as via some sort of newsgate, and sending the message off twice.
I'm wondering if some are connecting to Dovenet via QWK as well as via some sort of newsgate, and sending the message off twice.
I'm wondering if some are connecting to Dovenet via QWK as well as
via some sort of newsgate, and sending the message off twice.
That doesn't appear to be the case.
i dont think it's that. i just think marc's newsgate is fucking 'tarded. on top of that dude won't respond.
if i were dm i'd try to contact marc one more time and then block him.
I don't know what's triggering it, but I've seen the dupes from other authors too (no, I'm not filtering anything... yet).
Either way, I recently created an account on eternal-september.org and subscribed to a bunch of newsgroups (BBS related, 2600 related, Fido
(even Russian fido7 newsgroups) related) to see if there was any
activity there. Usenet as a whole seems fairly dead, unfortunately.
At some point, Rixter wrote:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ The FidoNet News Gate (Huntsville, AL - USA) +
+ The views of this user are strictly his or her own. + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Could this possibly be something Rixter is doing? It seems only his posts (at least recently) are going through this news gate and coming back into the network as some sort of modified dupe.
fusion wrote to Accession <=-
Either way, I recently created an account on eternal-september.org and subscribed to a bunch of newsgroups (BBS related, 2600 related, Fido
(even Russian fido7 newsgroups) related) to see if there was any
activity there. Usenet as a whole seems fairly dead, unfortunately.
yeah.. unfortunately you'd have to subscribe to *everything* for about
a month to know where activity is. it'll be empty and then there will
be 40 people posting..
the slackware one comes alive about every other week, alt.folklore.computers blows up randomly.. the C and C++ ones in a
month or so have more message volume than all the bbs message nets combined for a year probably (you wouldn't know it's not 1993 in there)
.. i don't think i'd want that high of volume going through a bbs
though..
I don't think I am getting the dupes here? Either that, or they are showing up a day or more later and I am not noticing.
yeah.. unfortunately you'd have to subscribe to *everything* for about a month to know where activity is. it'll be empty and then there will be
40 people posting..
don't think i'd want that high of volume going through a bbs though..
i dont think it's that. i just think marc's newsgate is fucking 'tarded. on top of that dude won't respond.
He responded here in Dovenet not too long ago, denying any claims that it was his system.
The gating on this system of a selected few alt.bbs newsgrops is to a"
very few nodes in Region 19 that don't run a Synchronet system with a
direct news link. It is obvious that one of them has a re-post problem
and the dupe are coming in with a different MSGID kludge. I will find
out which one it is and have him either unlink from the
ALT-BBS-SYNCHRONET echo or correct the
dupe problem.
On 13 Apr 2025, Accession said the following...
Either way, I recently created an account on eternal-september.org
and
subscribed to a bunch of newsgroups (BBS related, 2600 related, Fido (even Russian fido7 newsgroups) related) to see if there was any activity there. Usenet as a whole seems fairly dead, unfortunately.
yeah.. unfortunately you'd have to subscribe to *everything* for about a month to know where activity is. it'll be empty and then there will be 40 people posting..
the slackware one comes alive about every other week,
alt.folklore.computers
blows up randomly.. the C and C++ ones in a month or so have more message volume than all the bbs message nets combined for a year probably (you wouldn't know it's not 1993 in there) .. i don't think i'd want that high of volume going through a bbs though..
so either not worth it, or not worth it because it'd be annoying to read through? *shrug*
Here's what he said feb 2024
From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet[snip]
+ User FidoNet address: 1:396/4
X-From: "MRO" <mro@BBSESINF.remove-f4z-this>
At some point, you wrote:
Here's what he said feb 2024
That's quite awhile ago. Here's what he wrote April 8, 2025..
X-From: "MRO" <mro@BBSESINF.remove-f4z-this>[snip] "
This is a bogus message. It isn't possible for anyone to have address 1:396/4 - it's not open to the public and has no user interface. 1:396/4 is simply the address of the stand-alone NewsGate machine. Anyone posting to the alt.bbs.synchronet newsgroup would have to post from a FidoNet address and be linked to my ALT-BBS-SYNCRHONET echo. There'd be a dead giveaway who's posting; their address would show up in the "+ User FidoNet address" kludge.
This isn't the first time someone has tried to do this crap - it didn't
come
from here or I'd have a log of it and could cut that Node off straightaway. Feel free to post this to the newsgroup if you wish.
Best regards,
Marc
I'm not sure how 'bogus' messages are making their way here via his newsgate, though.
there's better ones than eternal september. i don't know why people even use it. also newsgroups are mostly binaries now. i stopped using them because it was a pain to subscribe to an indexer site and then pay for a newsgroup provider account. i just use torrents.
even use it. also newsgroups are mostly binaries now. i stopped using them because it was a pain to subscribe to an indexer site and then pay for a newsgroup provider account. i just use torrents.
People still use Eternal September because it's one of the last free, text-only providers left. Most people here aren't interested in binaries, so if you have some sort of extensive list of *free, text-only* providers, please feel free to share.
Regards,
Nick
When i used it years ago it was very limited and it was difficult to use on my bbs. i forgot the exact error msg but if i posted on my bbs to
the newsgroup it would be rejected because it thought i was spoofing names.
I said this a bunch of times but there's providers where you buy a block for 10 bucks and that's pretty much a lifetime subscription if you're
just doing text only and not binaries. it's not as limited as eternal sept.
Using one of the top newsgroup providers is 100x better than eternal
sept.
just doing text only and not binaries. it's not as limited as eternal sept.
After getting my free trial with Eternal September, I've realize I would never pay for usenet, even if it's only 10 bucks for a lifetime subscription. ;)
essageI don't think I am getting the dupes here? Either that, or they are showing up a day or more later and I am not noticing.
They're not considered dupes, because one of the messages are altered so bad you don't even realize it's a dupe until you read the actual content of the message. If you care to check, these two MSGIDs are, in fact, the same
but the second one was altered so much it would never be detected as a dupe:
That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later, yet anyway. ;)
I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so maybe that helps? My understanding is that the CRC checking also catches messages where the MSGID has been altered but the content is similar enough.
They're not considered dupes, because one of the messages are altered so bad you don't even realize it's a dupe until you read the actual content of the message. If you care to check, these two MSGIDs are, in fact, the sameessage
but the second one was altered so much it would never be detected as a dupe:
That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later, yet anyway. ;)
I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so
Accession wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
That is sort of what I meant. I am not reading any messages here that
look like "repeats." I am also not seeing my posts come back days later, yet anyway. ;)
The only way for you to see them would be to find those two MSGIDs (if
you have them).
I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so maybe that helps? My understanding is that the CRC checking also catches messages where the MSGID has been altered but the content is similar enough.
I honestly don't think any dupe checking mechanism whatsoever, would detect these two messages as dupes. Only maybe half of the message body itself, as you say, looks like a "repeat".
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I have this echo set up with Duplicate Checking - Enabled (1000 CRC) so
did you see the post where i said 'is there an echo in here'
rixter has a dupe right here https://vert.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=sync&thread=54028
this dupe shit has been going on for years on and off.
now apparently marc refuses to fix it and thinks it's someone else.
Yes, I saw your post, and I don't doubt that some people are seeing dupes.
I am only suggesting there might be a way, via a configuration change, to not
see them since they are not getting here.
sYes, I saw your post, and I don't doubt that some people are seeing dupes. I am only suggesting there might be a way, via a configuration change, to not
see them since they are not getting here.
what do you mean 'not getting here' i just showed you an example of how it
getting here.
maybe you just had a bad packet and that's why you didnt get it. happens to
sometimes.
If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.
I am not currently receiving any duplicates.
maybe you just had a bad packet and that's why you didnt get it. happens to
sometimes.
If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.
If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.
The dupes from the Fido->newsgate are pretty rare. You might not even notice.
If it is such a big problem, I doubt I am getting that many bad packets to where I am not seeing them at all.
The dupes from the Fido->newsgate are pretty rare. You might not even notice.
Would having your CRC dupe check set help against these at all?
I thought it might but it sounds like it might not?
Would having your CRC dupe check set help against these at all?
I thought it might but it sounds like it might not?
It would not because the body text is being substatially modified by newsgate.
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