• Re: Favorite Streaming se

    From Cozmo@VERT/LUN to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 11:17:00 2025
    Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?
    Nightfox

    I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Cozmo on Sat Jan 18 09:22:47 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

    I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal.

    A couple years ago, I heard there's a newer broadcast standard, ATSC 3.0, which has been rolling out in the US. A couple of the main goals are to allow over-the-air TV broadcasts in 4K and improvements to the signal to allow better reception in places that have a lot of trees & buildings & such. It looks like the main networks in my area broadcast in both ATSC 3.0 and the older standard; my HDHomerun Flex 4K tuner is able to pick up the ATSC 3.0 broadcasts and it seems like they do tend to get better reception for me. I often like to watch Jeopardy (on ABC), and for some reason I tend to have trouble getting the regular ABC broadcast station, but ABC's ATSC 3.0 channel tends to come in fairly well for me.

    Also I use a bunch of the
    free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

    I have a few of those too - Plex TV, Roku, Pluto, and I recently signed up for Tubi. I don't use them very often, but perhaps I should use them more, as there's lots of stuff to watch with those. I probably watch enough TV as it is though..

    Nightfox

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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Amessyroom on Sat Jan 18 19:10:00 2025
    I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).Secondary services I use are: netflix, prime videoDropped some others to save money, but of
    course they are coming out with new stuff I want to see :-( ---

    I do watch a lot of Youtube and subscribe to YT premium - not the TV part, just premium YT w/o ads.

    I used to get Netflix, and still buy a month here and there when some series or show I want to watch comes out - I'll use that month to binge download anything I'm interested in and cancel.

    For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of several applications;
    a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

    Those are a VPN, .torrent downloader, Streaming App, Library Scanner/Suggests movies/TV, .torrent Searcher, Movie Downloader, TV Downloader, Mustic Downloader and a Home Screen.

    A hoy, matey!



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to paulie420 on Sun Jan 19 10:59:00 2025
    Hello paulie420!

    [...] Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr,
    Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

    Are those named in homage to things piratey?


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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Ogg on Sun Jan 19 15:39:00 2025
    [...] Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr,
    Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

    Are those named in homage to things piratey?

    Dude - I never thought of that, but I sure hope so... hmmmm.
    Gonna research that a bit!



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  • From Amessyroom@VERT/TL-QWK to Cozmo on Mon Jan 20 05:24:02 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

    Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?
    Nightfox

    I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.
    indoor antennas failed for me. Maybe I should try external, i just cannot climb under the house to run cable; and wife would have a "cow" if she saw or found out I climbed the tower. LOL

    I probably need to look at using some of the free services. Only thing is, you cannot pause them (so back to oldtime tv), I love DVR. That's the other reason I went to youtube tv for their DVR and easy of use. I don't have to watch it when it comes on, but on my schedule.

    I have all three of the services you mention; but don't use them reguarlly.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 08:51:08 2025
    Nightfox wrote to Cozmo <=-

    I have a few of those too - Plex TV, Roku, Pluto, and I recently signed
    up for Tubi. I don't use them very often, but perhaps I should use
    them more, as there's lots of stuff to watch with those. I probably
    watch enough TV as it is though..

    If Roku supported IPTV, I'd stick with IPTV for terrestrial channels,
    pick one streaming service and explore all of the free/ad supported
    content on Roku - there's a ton of it.

    Amazon Fire sticks support IPTV, but I don't know about their other
    channels.

    If I ever need to cut my expenses way back, that's where I'd start.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to paulie420 on Mon Jan 20 08:51:08 2025
    paulie420 wrote to Amessyroom <=-

    For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of
    several applications; a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr,
    Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

    I need to check out the Arrs - I'm doing it all manually now, finding
    out what I want to see, then going to tracker sites. Once the content is
    here, I'm using DLNA to stream to Roku devices.



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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jan 20 19:24:00 2025
    For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of several applications; a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

    I need to check out the Arrs - I'm doing it all manually now, finding
    out what I want to see, then going to tracker sites. Once the content is here, I'm using DLNA to stream to Roku devices.

    Many times I prefer searching w/ prowlarr and not the other automated arr searchers.

    However, I do make use of many of them..



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Feb 15 09:36:00 2025
    OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and
    thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think

    Did that become true with the conversion to digital, or was it even true
    before that?


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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Cozmo on Fri Feb 21 13:01:56 2025
    I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

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    Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
    Have a good day cozmo.

    Rixter
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  • From Cozmo@VERT/LUN to Rixter on Sat Feb 22 11:00:00 2025
    Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years
    ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now
    we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
    Have a good day cozmo.

    Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more than anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OTA channels.

    Have a good one!

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  • From Rixter@VERT/CJSPLACE to Cozmo on Sun Feb 23 06:56:56 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Cozmo to Rixter on Sat Feb 22 2025 11:00 am

    Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now > Ri> we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother > Ri> speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
    Have a good day cozmo.

    Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more th > anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OT > channels.

    Have a good one!

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    ... Enter any 12-digit prime number to continue.
    We use Pluto because it came with the LG TV we bought. We had the TV for a yearbefore we connected it to the internet. LOL. Pluto seems easy to understand. Itreminds me of a kind of tuner. Lots of good one show only channels. I remember
    they had a Star Trek Classic channel that ran the old Star Trek Shows 24/7 and we left it there for weeks. That is kind of nice.
    Have a great weekend Cozmo!
    Rixter
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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Cozmo on Tue Feb 25 05:02:45 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

    Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

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  • From Cozmo@VERT/LUN to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 08:31:00 2025
    Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming
    is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
    maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

    I don't think Cable is worth the price anymore at least for me. There are so many free options out there to use. Hopefully the lines will reach you soon and you'll be able to stream and use the free services without worring about data.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 06:06:42 2025
    Bogomips wrote to Cozmo <=-

    Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming
    is much more wholesome.

    I was hoping to get local news and PBS on an indoor HDTV antenna, but
    all I get was CBS, lots of religious and Spanish-language programming,
    and some interesting retro sitcom channels.

    With a Roku, the antenna input is called "live TV" and includes a ton
    of streaming channels. If I was on a serious budget, I could get by
    watching free streaming with basic internet service quite well.

    Where I live now, they are just starting to run
    cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
    maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast.
    Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

    300-600 megabits/second and a 1.2 terabyte/month would be an adjustment
    from hotspot internet...





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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Cozmo on Wed Feb 26 13:55:01 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Cozmo to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 2025 08:31 am

    Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable
    lines
    up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
    maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that
    I
    am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

    I don't think Cable is worth the price anymore at least for me. There are so many free
    options out there to use. Hopefully the lines will reach you soon and you'll be able
    to
    stream and use the free services without worring about data.

    |02-=|10Cozmo|02=-

    ... A Skydiver is taken by the gravity of his situation.

    Also, with cable a portion of your bill is automatically given to certain networks, even if you don't watch them or agree with their progamming.

    I think my wife will be more interested in all the streaming. I'm used to the small selection of old shows and pbs that are offered OTA.

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  • From Bogomips@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Feb 26 14:02:06 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 2025 06:06 am

    Bogomips wrote to Cozmo <=-

    Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome.

    I was hoping to get local news and PBS on an indoor HDTV antenna, but
    all I get was CBS, lots of religious and Spanish-language programming,
    and some interesting retro sitcom channels.

    Sometimes I find that I have to scan for channels a few times.

    With a Roku, the antenna input is called "live TV" and includes a ton
    of streaming channels. If I was on a serious budget, I could get by
    watching free streaming with basic internet service quite well.

    You had me at "serious budget". Day after Christmas I was in the hospital and will not
    longer be working. I have Disability Insurance through work for the next 4 years. That should get me to Full Retirement age.

    It's just another speed bump down the highway of life.

    Where I live now, they are just starting to run
    cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

    300-600 megabits/second and a 1.2 terabyte/month would be an adjustment
    from hotspot internet...

    Suprisingly, I would get by with the hotspot except it ran out too fast this month with all the paperwork i've been having to download. So now I'm using my wifes, and it's in the other room and I'm atleast able to get on Vert with two bars





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 18:59:56 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Bogomips to Cozmo on Wed Feb 26 2025 01:55 pm

    Also, with cable a portion of your bill is automatically given to certain networks, even if you don't watch them or agree with their progamming.

    The "Sports Programming Fee" is the worst - apparently Comcast charges this even if you don't have a sports package.

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Thu Mar 20 09:56:04 2025
    On 2025-02-23, Rixter <CJSPLACE!Rixter@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Cozmo to Rixter on Sat Feb 22 2025 11:00 am

    Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now > Ri> we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother > Ri> speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
    Have a good day cozmo.

    Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more th > anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OT > channels.

    Have a good one!

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    We use Pluto because it came with the LG TV we bought. We had the TV for a yearbefore we connected it to the internet. LOL. Pluto seems easy to understand. Itreminds me of a kind of tuner. Lots of good one show only channels. I remember
    they had a Star Trek Classic channel that ran the old Star Trek Shows 24/7 and
    we left it there for weeks. That is kind of nice.
    Have a great weekend Cozmo!
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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sun Apr 13 21:24:52 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: anthk to All on Thu Mar 20 2025 09:56:04

    Hey, guys.

    We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet...

    My family was rather late to the cable scene as well, though not /quite/ as late as you. We didn't sign up until '90, and the only reason that happened was because I signed up for TV and Internet for myself and split the connection between my den and the living room. My Ma quickly became a fan of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the Sci-Fi Channel, Cartoon Network

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sun Apr 13 22:11:03 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 21:24:52

    [Continued from last msg.]

    of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the Sci-Fi
    Channel, Cartoon Network and ZDTV--oh how I loved that channel.

    As for streaming, I use a number of services, but for old TV show and movies, I like Tubi. I also have Crackle, but don't use it much. I've tried a few times, but they never seemed to have what I was looking for, and now that you have to pay for it, I don't go at all.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortar on Mon Apr 14 10:03:06 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 09:24 pm

    My family was rather late to the cable scene as well, though not /quite/ as late as you. We didn't sign up until '90, and the only reason that happened was because I signed up for TV and Internet for myself and split the connection between my den and the living room. My Ma quickly became a fan of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the

    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet package from the cable company in 1990?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mortar on Mon Apr 14 20:36:27 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 09:24 pm

    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: anthk to All on Thu Mar 20 2025 09:56:04

    Hey, guys.

    We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did

    get
    cable available and we just went with internet...

    My family was rather late to the cable scene as well, though not /quite/

    as
    late as you. We didn't sign up until '90, and the only reason that happened was because I signed up for TV and Internet for myself and split the connection between my den and the living room. My Ma quickly became a fan of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the Sci-Fi Channel, Cartoon Network

    We weren't rich or anything but we had cable television back when there wasn't much ON cable. nickelodian or whatever it was before then was a real weird show. the only show that i can remember the name of is pinwheel. i still remember the song by heart. then you cant do that on television came out and my mom didn't want me watching it. i had a crush on chistine.

    anyways, when we had it, there wasn't always programming airing. it would black out for parts of the day and overnight. there wasn't much on it.
    i remember seeing mtv the first time and it was lame as hell.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 14:10:20 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Nightfox to Mortar on Mon Apr 14 2025 10:03:06

    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet package from the cable company in 1990?

    Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortar on Tue Apr 15 12:59:10 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

    Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet
    package from the cable company in 1990?

    Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

    Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 23:13:40 2025
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    By: Nightfox to Mortar on Tue Apr 15 2025 12:59:10

    Including cable internet?

    Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 07:29:16 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 11:13 pm

    Including cable internet?

    Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

    Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 09:05:00 2025
    Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

    Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

    In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly
    means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet
    even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

    I had dial-up internet then, and internet at work, and it was all text -- email, ftp, telnet, usenet news, and gopher sites.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 08:52:05 2025
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    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 2025 09:05 am

    Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would
    have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

    In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

    I had dial-up internet then, and internet at work, and it was all text -- email, ftp, telnet, usenet news, and gopher sites.

    I wasn't aware of the internet until 1995. In 1990, I knew of services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe etc. though.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 12:50:00 2025
    On 16 Apr 2025, Dumas Walker said the following...

    In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

    it's a bit disingenuous.. like saying 2.5Gbit internet was available in the 90's (it was.. to ISPs)

    in truth (adjusted for inflation, 1995) just the cablemodems for service back then were >$1000

    and (again for inflation) 1993? $11000 for the modem

    it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to fusion on Wed Apr 16 10:11:50 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 12:50 pm

    In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly
    means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet
    even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not
    really yet a big thing then.

    it's a bit disingenuous.. like saying 2.5Gbit internet was available in the 90's (it was.. to ISPs)

    in truth (adjusted for inflation, 1995) just the cablemodems for service back then were >$1000

    and (again for inflation) 1993? $11000 for the modem

    it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

    Yeah, from what I remember, I think I first started hearing about broadband cable internet in 1999, though we didn't get broadnand service until 2001 or early 2002.

    Nightfox

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 13:24:29 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

    Yup. Cable had been available in my
    area since 1980-81.

    There was cable here with dial-up
    upstream in 1990 (and probably prior),
    but bi-directional didn't arrive until
    quite some years later.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Wed Apr 16 16:02:17 2025
    Nightfox wrote to Mortar <=-

    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 11:13 pm

    Including cable internet?

    Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

    Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

    There wasn't (broadband for home internet) until at LEAST the very late
    90's, in the real world.

    I think the OP's memory may be experiencing some "bit-rot"...



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to fusion on Wed Apr 16 15:05:13 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 12:50 pm

    it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

    @Home was my first cable Internet provider. I remember it being 640Kbps downstream (which was a huge upgrade over ISDN I was using before that), I don't remember what the upstream was.
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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Wed Apr 16 19:26:05 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Nightfox to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 2025 07:29:16

    I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

    Turns out my memory is faulty. Comcast--my ISP--did't start offerig broadband until 12/96. Sorry about that.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 20:03:33 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 2025 09:05:00

    ...unless he possibly means IDSN service...

    You mean ISDN, and no, just a synapse lapse.

    The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

    Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser was Mosaic in 1993.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Wed Apr 16 20:13:24 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:52:05

    I wasn't aware of the internet until 1995. In 1990, I knew of services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe etc. though.

    I tried all of 'em at one time or another. I stayed with AOHell the longest--maybe a year? BBSes were my mainstay until Comcast offered broadband.

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to phigan on Wed Apr 16 20:17:00 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: phigan to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 2025 13:24:29

    There was cable here with dial-up...

    I was referrig to standard TV cable at that point.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MORTAR on Thu Apr 17 08:53:00 2025
    The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

    Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser was
    Mosaic in 1993.

    I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was I
    first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because of
    where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

    The version I used came from Quarterdeck with a DesqView/QEMM upgrade.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 08:18:23 2025
    Nightfox wrote to Mortar <=-

    Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

    I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being
    able to bounce around the world on one phone call. About that time, my
    company got a 56k leased line from UC Berkeley. I had a shell account,
    tried playing with tools like SLiRP to connect Windows to the net, then
    had ISDN to my office, which had a T1. DSL wasn't until 2000 or so, and
    then it was something like 384k/128k.

    25 years later and I'm pricing out symmetric gig networking for my
    home...





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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Apr 17 09:12:18 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:18 am

    Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I

    I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being able to bounce around the world on one phone call. About that time, my company got a 56k leased line from UC Berkeley. I had a shell account, tried playing with tools like SLiRP to connect Windows to the net, then

    Just before I heard about the internet, I do remember people on some local BBSes in my area talking about having FTP access at those BBSes and that you could get to a shell and access FTP sites, download some files, then download the files from the BBS. I remember reading some instructions and getting on a couple of FTP sites (I don't remember where I found them), even though I didn't really know what these FTP sites were.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 17 13:06:31 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to MORTAR <=-

    The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

    Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser
    was
    Mosaic in 1993.

    I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was
    I first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because
    of where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

    What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably
    1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.



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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Apr 17 14:12:12 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:18:23

    I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being
    able to bounce around the world on one phone call.

    I was introduced to the Net while I was a Computer Lab Assistant in college. The lab Coordinator said they had a shell account and showed me how to dial in using an a Tektronix 4051 and an acoustic-coupled modem. I was instantly hooked. I spent every free moment online that I could.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Thu Apr 17 13:00:22 2025
    Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 17 2025 01:06 pm

    What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably 1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.

    Same here (and I think it was spelled as Netscape, with lowercase 's').

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Fri Apr 18 09:43:00 2025
    I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was
    I first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because of where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

    What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably
    1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.

    Same, re: dial-up. ;)


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